Comments on: Zero Tolerance Fridays http://www.solanasaurus.com/2008/05/26/zero-tolerance-fridays/ don't bite me Sat, 13 Feb 2010 08:12:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: pigmeat http://www.solanasaurus.com/2008/05/26/zero-tolerance-fridays/comment-page-1/#comment-165776 pigmeat Sat, 13 Feb 2010 08:12:08 +0000 http://www.solanasaurus.com/?p=365#comment-165776 just got a tic for walking home through prospect park around 2am, had just walked in off PPSW and got reeled in by the chick cop on the passenger side, then passed on to the tyro on the drivers side. that bitch had it all sewed up. "zero tolerance" "robbers in the park". well i didn't see any, and do you think they'd at least escort me out of the park if there's all these damn robbers around? but no. now i gotta take a day off work to go to court, so the tic is already costing me at least $200. for what? for FUCKING WHAT??? to make me even more edgy around cops? to legally mug me? make me fear the park i grew up in? pigfuckingbastards; i spit in your blind eyes. just got a tic for walking home through prospect park around 2am, had just walked in off PPSW and got reeled in by the chick cop on the passenger side, then passed on to the tyro on the drivers side. that bitch had it all sewed up. “zero tolerance” “robbers in the park”. well i didn’t see any, and do you think they’d at least escort me out of the park if there’s all these damn robbers around? but no. now i gotta take a day off work to go to court, so the tic is already costing me at least $200. for what? for FUCKING WHAT??? to make me even more edgy around cops? to legally mug me? make me fear the park i grew up in? pigfuckingbastards; i spit in your blind eyes.

]]> By: X http://www.solanasaurus.com/2008/05/26/zero-tolerance-fridays/comment-page-1/#comment-85966 X Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:07:28 +0000 http://www.solanasaurus.com/?p=365#comment-85966 This is X here. To Mr. Owen: Abiding by the law or not isn't the point. Yes, my friend shouldn't have jumped the turnstile. But, should he have gone to jail for 24 hours and endured harassment by the police? Another new example, another friend of mine was recently arrested for drinking in public and ended up spending FOUR DAYS in jail because the cops kept 'losing his paperwork' and when he finally got to see his court-appointed defender he was informed that he was also being charged with attempted destruction of evidence (in his surprise of being confronted by the police he dropped the bottle) and with possession of CRACK COCAINE (which he certainly wasnt carrying). These types of things happen on a daily basis. I really can't stand that saying of 'dont do the crime if you cant serve the time'. The rules of the game are rigged and are being executed in an unfair manner. Moreover, I find that to be very close to the argument of defenders of violations of the fourth amendment rights: "if you have nothing to hide then what do you have to worry about?". These are arguments in support of facism. Moreover, your comment completely ignored Solana's point about punishment being proportional to the crime. Indeed, the law doesn't even properly cover this type of treatment as the police manipulate the law and abuse their power using tactics such as these. Its not just about lobbying my representative to change the law. Its about more than the law, its about a culture gone wrong and this is further evidence that its not just happening here in the US. Last, how in the hell is it 'anti-social' to have a bbq on the street? It seems quite the opposite to me. This is X here.

To Mr. Owen: Abiding by the law or not isn’t the point. Yes, my friend shouldn’t have jumped the turnstile. But, should he have gone to jail for 24 hours and endured harassment by the police?

Another new example, another friend of mine was recently arrested for drinking in public and ended up spending FOUR DAYS in jail because the cops kept ‘losing his paperwork’ and when he finally got to see his court-appointed defender he was informed that he was also being charged with attempted destruction of evidence (in his surprise of being confronted by the police he dropped the bottle) and with possession of CRACK COCAINE (which he certainly wasnt carrying). These types of things happen on a daily basis.

I really can’t stand that saying of ‘dont do the crime if you cant serve the time’. The rules of the game are rigged and are being executed in an unfair manner. Moreover, I find that to be very close to the argument of defenders of violations of the fourth amendment rights: “if you have nothing to hide then what do you have to worry about?”. These are arguments in support of facism. Moreover, your comment completely ignored Solana’s point about punishment being proportional to the crime. Indeed, the law doesn’t even properly cover this type of treatment as the police manipulate the law and abuse their power using tactics such as these.

Its not just about lobbying my representative to change the law. Its about more than the law, its about a culture gone wrong and this is further evidence that its not just happening here in the US.

Last, how in the hell is it ‘anti-social’ to have a bbq on the street? It seems quite the opposite to me.

]]> By: jeremyclarke http://www.solanasaurus.com/2008/05/26/zero-tolerance-fridays/comment-page-1/#comment-82576 jeremyclarke Thu, 05 Jun 2008 03:23:55 +0000 http://www.solanasaurus.com/?p=365#comment-82576 Awesome article. I got fined by my local Transit Authority a few years ago (205$) for not having the appropriate student transit identification (not that i wasn't a student, but that I didn't get ID from THEM), and it burned me pretty bad. Those stickers sound great. Downtown Montreal just got a bike lane straight through it, and it's taking a while for the drivers AND pedestrians to get used to it (people are always walking into the path when only looking out for cars), but someone parking in the bike lane is so stupid... Anyway, you're right, temporary imprisonment of people drinking beers in the street makes the U.S. seem MORE like a Taliban-controlled Afghanistan, not less. Awesome article. I got fined by my local Transit Authority a few years ago (205$) for not having the appropriate student transit identification (not that i wasn’t a student, but that I didn’t get ID from THEM), and it burned me pretty bad.

Those stickers sound great. Downtown Montreal just got a bike lane straight through it, and it’s taking a while for the drivers AND pedestrians to get used to it (people are always walking into the path when only looking out for cars), but someone parking in the bike lane is so stupid… Anyway, you’re right, temporary imprisonment of people drinking beers in the street makes the U.S. seem MORE like a Taliban-controlled Afghanistan, not less.

]]> By: coodence http://www.solanasaurus.com/2008/05/26/zero-tolerance-fridays/comment-page-1/#comment-82022 coodence Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:09:35 +0000 http://www.solanasaurus.com/?p=365#comment-82022 Dude, what's the point of getting a ticket if you can't bitch about it?? Dude, what’s the point of getting a ticket if you can’t bitch about it??

]]> By: Anthony Owen http://www.solanasaurus.com/2008/05/26/zero-tolerance-fridays/comment-page-1/#comment-80785 Anthony Owen Wed, 28 May 2008 16:34:48 +0000 http://www.solanasaurus.com/?p=365#comment-80785 Don't see what your problem is, mate. Don't steal from public transport (by jumping over the turnstiles), don't be an anti-social ass (by barbecuing in the street and making nasty smells for the entire neighbourhood)....as for drinking in the street, well, you Americans have always been a bit odd about alcohol, but the way to deal with that is lobby your representatives to change the law....don't just break it (or, break it if you want, but you know what the punishment is anyway.....as we would have it: "Don't do the crime if you are too wet to serve the time!". Don’t see what your problem is, mate. Don’t steal from public transport (by jumping over the turnstiles), don’t be an anti-social ass (by barbecuing in the street and making nasty smells for the entire neighbourhood)….as for drinking in the street, well, you Americans have always been a bit odd about alcohol, but the way to deal with that is lobby your representatives to change the law….don’t just break it (or, break it if you want, but you know what the punishment is anyway…..as we would have it: “Don’t do the crime if you are too wet to serve the time!”.

]]> By: coodence http://www.solanasaurus.com/2008/05/26/zero-tolerance-fridays/comment-page-1/#comment-80545 coodence Tue, 27 May 2008 15:14:42 +0000 http://www.solanasaurus.com/?p=365#comment-80545 I totally got a ticket for open container the other day! Officer Dang - WTF? I totally got a ticket for open container the other day! Officer Dang – WTF?

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